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Re: AW Tourist Congestion Pic Marathon 2013

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 7:03 pm
by leachy
Richprins wrote:Whatever, but the pics speak for themselves. If it's part of a bigger plan, whici is extremely doubtful, that makes this even more newsworthy!
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Re: AW Tourist Congestion Pic Marathon 2013

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 7:21 pm
by nan
Flutterby wrote:I think most South Africans would refuse to go to Kruger if they couldn't self-drive.
and maybe not only South Africans :-?
if... if it's really for the comfort of animals.....

Re: AW Tourist Congestion Pic Marathon 2013

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:00 pm
by Bushcraft
Well done Brat, not bad for your age ^Q^ ^Q^ ^Q^ Thanks Flutts and RP for your involvement X#X



As a matter of interest if Kruger is all about money, which I personally think it is, how does the overnight revenue in camps compare to the day visitor revenue, especially when many day visitors have wild cards anyway?

The overnight turnover just for accommodation in Skukuza per day is around R250 000 at the base rate and 85% occupancy. I guess that it’s probably way more than the day visitor turnover in Kruger per day, but I wonder how much the day visitor numbers add to the congestion and chaos.

Anyone will tell you that Kruger out of school holidays during the week is very different traffic wise to a Kruger on a Saturday, Sunday or in school holidays, so a large portion of the congestion problem is from day visitors.

I think it’s around 4 times cheaper to enter Kruger as a day visitor than it is to camp in Kruger, so if I was going to adjust anything it would be the avenue of least turnover which is causing the biggest issue. If SANParks halve the day visitor numbers and charge double they will still make the same amount of money, but decrease a massive amount of congestion.

If SANParks were going to force contracted drives, etc, then it will be for day visitors as they will never mess with the massive turnover camps are generating and these camps are only running at this occupancy due to self drive.

Logistically SANParks will never handle contracted drives or no self drive in camps when they are already battling logistically with the normal day to day stuff.

Re: AW Tourist Congestion Pic Marathon 2013

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:07 pm
by Richprins
The long term idea is/was to link new hotels to "park and ride" from the periphery of Kruger etc. But that is another topic!

Agreed, BC! \O

Re: AW Tourist Congestion Pic Marathon 2013

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:09 pm
by Bushcraft
Richprins wrote:The long term idea is/was to link new hotels to "park and ride" from the periphery of Kruger etc.
Agreed, that's where the rumour started, but it will never be for the current camps \O

Re: AW Tourist Congestion Pic Marathon 2013

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:14 pm
by Richprins
;-)

Thanks for a great slideshow, Flutts and BB! O/\ O/\ O/\

Re: AW Tourist Congestion Pic Marathon 2013

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:17 pm
by Bushcraft
BTW, this link will disappear amongst all the posts :-?

Re: AW Tourist Congestion Pic Marathon 2013

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:19 pm
by Richprins
Flutterby wrote:Thank you to everyone who contributed to this thread and allowed the use of their pictures. \O \O

Take a look at the video that Africa Wild has produced, which hopefully will get a lot of attention. ;-)

Save Kruger

PS. Thank you to Bush Brat for putting the video together. O0
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Re: AW Tourist Congestion Pic Marathon 2013

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:22 pm
by Bushcraft
Is that a none mod shortcut RP =O: =O: =O: =O: X#X

Re: AW Tourist Congestion Pic Marathon 2013

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:08 am
by RobertT
The day visitors are quite important as well, SANParks are probably making the same margin p/p or close to on a day visitor to an overnight visitor if you take the infrastructure costs, staff required (shops, petrol, laundry,restaurants,cleaning, managers as well as HO, booking staff, website), maintenance, insurances etc etc. The wild card gets paid in advance and earns an interest and some people only just cover the cost of the card. Day visitors also spend money in restaurants, shops so they help cover costs of these places.