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Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification

Post by Klipspringer » Sat May 23, 2020 10:20 pm

Do you have a more dorsal view of the brown one?

I think it's in the Fulgoridae

One of these:

Subfamily Strongylodematinae Fennah, 1962
Tribe Capocleini Emeljanov, 2004
Capocles Emeljanov, 2004

Tribe Strongylodematini Stål, 1853
Capenopsis Melichar, 1912
Codon Fennah, 1962
Strongylodemas Stål, 1853
Tecmar Fennah, 1962


https://www.hemiptera-databases.org/flowpdf/2500.pdf

check fig 2 in this paper and description
https://www.hemiptera-databases.org/flowpdf/3443.pdf

Is there anything in the field guide?

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Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification

Post by Klipspringer » Sat May 23, 2020 10:33 pm

The green one is in the Dictyopharidae, subfamily Dictyopharinae, but other than that I have no clue and nothing for reference.

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Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification

Post by Klipspringer » Sat May 23, 2020 10:35 pm

Thanks for the bee-fly photo, looks like another Anastoechus , you have quite a collection of these O/\ O/\

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Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification

Post by ExFmem » Sat May 23, 2020 11:45 pm

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(KTP)

Is this the same as:

Egyptian Hoverfly Ischiodon aegyptius
Family: Syrphidae. Subfamily: Syrphinae. Tribe: Syrphini

https://africawild-forum.com/viewtopic. ... 47#p178447

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Female, Kgalagadi Transfrontier Park, Mata Mata © ExFmem

thanks! - Will get to the other replies from you 0/0 later - dinner time. :ty:

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Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification

Post by Klipspringer » Sun May 24, 2020 6:28 am

ExFmem wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 11:45 pm

Is this the same as:

Egyptian Hoverfly Ischiodon aegyptius
Family: Syrphidae. Subfamily: Syrphinae. Tribe: Syrphini
:yes: Added ^Q^ and like it :-0

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Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification

Post by ExFmem » Sun May 24, 2020 7:35 pm

Re: plant hoppers -
The Guidebook (Picker, etc) says Fulgoridae can be distinguished from related families by the combination of a very swollen first antennal segment, bearing a small bristle, and a network of veins in the fan-like basal (anal) area of the hindwing.

Dictyopharidae have wings narrow, often clear, but without network of tiny veins in the anal area….

I do not have any pics of the brown one dorsally. Both the brown and green one have similar antennae, and I obviously can’t see the hindwing of the brown one….so I’m fine with the green one being a Dictyopharidae and the brown being a Fulgoridae.

Seems most of the papers I’ve read on those two Families (from various areas worldwide), indicate a confused state presently, with definitive IDs and diagnostics in flux.

Will just have to put them away for now. 0/* But they are lil’ cutie pies. 0/0

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Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification

Post by Klipspringer » Sun May 24, 2020 7:42 pm

Ja, this subfamily of the brown ones has travelled around the taxonomic world, but I have checked again and I am almost convinced that we have the same as Fig 2.

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Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification

Post by ExFmem » Sun May 24, 2020 7:48 pm

I certainly agree with that. :yes:

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Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification

Post by Klipspringer » Sun May 24, 2020 7:52 pm

Ok, then we have done another one O/\

Very cool, this is an entirely endemic subfamily and very unusual O\/

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Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification

Post by ExFmem » Sun May 24, 2020 11:20 pm

2016 KTP

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Appears to be the same as 2017 file 1.
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