What is the situation/progress with the proposed hotels in Kruger?

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Re: What is the situation/progress with the proposed hotels?

Post by Amoli » Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:11 am

HE - thanks for representing AW... \O

I do read some good news between the lines,
not all lost yet,
there are more peeps out there sharing our views,and we
are not alone in our concerns,
It will be noted in reports that the 'important' party'
didn't take the time out for this meet ...
shocking :shock: :shock:
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Re: What is the situation/progress with the proposed hotels?

Post by Lisbeth » Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:57 am

Gerhard Smit's report of the meet on the 3rd of August:
Report back on MSR Scoping Report focus group meeting held on 3 August 2012.

The meeting was held in the SANParks boardroom and was reasonably well attended by interested and affected parties.

V&L were present, even one of the directors attended, which was much appreciated.
The AIKONA GROUP, AFRICA WILD, WESSA, as well as the LUKIMBI Lodge consultant, the legal representatives of the Pestano Lodge in Malelane attended as observers, Mr. Pete Wright the developer also attended, this was also much appreciated. The AARDWOLF TV-programme crew was present and recorded the proceedings.

What was disappointing was that no one from the press was in attendance.

What was most disappointing was that although SANParks were invited they declined saying that they had nothing to add.

SANParks may not have had anything to add about the Scoping Report. As they do not miss an opportunity to attack and belittle those in opposition to the hotels and commercialization of our Parks, e.g. at the KUDU Awards function at end November 2011 and now again during the passing out parade of the new rangers and in the press – noted all in our absence. One would have expected of SANParks to address us face to face, this went of pretty poorly.

Many questions were asked and of them were answered; unfortunately the SANParks related issues still remain unanswered, it is very unfortunate that SANParks are not prepared to face and address our concerns, it was very evident during the meeting that this is causing more frustration. Just maybe SANParks are running out of arguments or have very little in defence and not enough courage to face the IAP’s. SANParks may come up with some technical reason for their non attendance however this does no go down well.

It was very clear that the invitees present are not in favour of the SANParks commercialization plans. It was also mentioned that V&L have not yet been officially notified that the PDZ concept had been approved by the Minister of Environmental Affairs and that until this happens the zoning will remain a major issue.

The Scoping Report is a very comprehensive document which was well prepared and Dereck Milburn and his team were complimented and thanked by me. Others shared my view.

It is again stressed that the consultants for the project are appointed and paid for by the developer of the project. The duty of the consultants are to be objective and do an assessment starting of with the Scoping Report which is then followed by the Environmental Impact Assessment. It is not their function to promote or shoot down the project. Obviously they can also only perform within their mandate.

The EIA is expected to be completed by end of the year and will again be made available for public scrutiny.

Minutes of the meeting were taken and once finalized, will be made available.
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Re: What is the situation/progress with the proposed hotels?

Post by Peter Betts » Sat Aug 04, 2012 12:43 pm

It sounds an absolute shambles...bottom line are they starting to build next year at Malelane???

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Post by iNdlovu » Sat Aug 04, 2012 5:35 pm

Could we expect any more from SanParks management 0*\
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Re: What is the situation/progress with the proposed hotels?

Post by H. erectus » Sat Aug 04, 2012 6:07 pm

iNdlovu wrote:Could we expect any more from SanParks management
Like this you can expect all sorts from Sanparks!!
Heh,.. H.e

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Re: What is the situation/progress with the proposed hotels?

Post by Richprins » Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:54 pm

One doesn't really know who may be in government in January...especially the Minister...so either SanParks will go it alone without proper EIA...contrary to minister's instructions, or things may take a long while yet! -O-

But we are doing our part! ;-)
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Post by iNdlovu » Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:20 am

Richprins wrote:...so either SanParks will go it alone without proper EIA...
I don't think even those people at Groenkloof would be that stupid to blatantly break the law, -O-
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Re: What is the situation/progress with the proposed hotels?

Post by Penga Ndlovu » Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:32 am

Peter Betts wrote:It sounds an absolute shambles...bottom line are they starting to build next year at Malelane???
Like I have always said.

Money has changed hands and have been used.
They will continue with it.
They cannot stop.

But I will have to agree with iNdy.

They will not break the law.

All eyes are on them now.

They cannot be that stupid.

or can they? :-? :-? :-?
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Re: What is the situation/progress with the proposed hotels?

Post by H. erectus » Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:58 pm

Breaking the law?? Was any legislation placed upon them?
Doubt it. So why would they be breaking the law???

Situation is that parts of our democratic right are been withheld
from us namely the right to information!!! So to wittle a oregon
pine down to match stick,.......... is about what your'e facing!!!

You'll get there but by then it will be to late!!!!
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Re: What is the situation/progress with the proposed hotels?

Post by Richprins » Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:29 pm

Hey, H.!

You can say "we" now, instead of "you"? ;-)


Regarding the law, it is Departmental policy that no development of this scale may take place without an EIA.

But the Act says that the Department may approve developments on the recommendation of SanParks.

For example, I don't know if an EIA was done for the Chapman's Peak Toll office? -O-
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