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CUSTOS 1978



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The driver could also have driven over it unknowingly and seeing that it was half dead, he would rather kill it instead of letting it suffer -O-


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Outrage even back then! :shock:


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lol

Humans were humans also back then O**


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WATCH: Massive 3,6 metres python removed from the premises of Two Rivers Mine
A massive python was removed on Monday by local snake handler and remover, Neels Bothma.
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The female snake of approximately 3,6 metres was spotted on the premises of Two Rivers Mine’s main decline shaft early that morning. Workers immediately contacted Bothma to help with the removal of the large reptile.


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He will collect several data samples for research purposes before releasing the snake back into a suitable environment.

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Big one :shock:


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It seems to me that we have to change as well the tittle for the Pythons ;-)

There is no African Rock Python in South Africa, as per "the Snakes of Southern Africa" and/or "African Snakebite Institute" on FB, but Southern African Python


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Taxonomic notes: The Southern African taxon of African Rock Python Python sebae natalensis was elevated to full species status by Broadley (1999). The validity of this assignment has however "not been fully resolved" (Schleip and O'Shea 2010), and as the name Python natalensis was first applied without an associated description, it has been argued that it is a nomen nudum (Branch and Bauer 2005). The existence of sympatric populations of the two taxa Python sebae and P. natalensis in northeastern Tanzania provides evidence for the validity of P. natalensis (Broadley 1999), however possible hybrids with intermediate characters are known from this region (Spawls et al. 2002). Consequently this species is accepted by most authors, but not recognized by others (e.g. Trape and Mané 2006, who consider P. sebae to range as far as South Africa).

You can call them African Rock Python or Southern African Python according to your choice of species concept.

Species, in biology, classification comprising related organisms that share common characteristics and are capable of interbreeding. This biological species concept is widely used in biology and related fields of study. There are more than 20 other different species concepts, however. Some examples include the ecological species concept, which describes a species as a group of organisms framed by the resources they depend on (in other words, their ecological niche), and the genetic species concept, which considers all organisms capable of inheriting traits from one another within a common gene pool and the amount of genetic difference between populations of that species. Like the biological species concept, the genetic species concept considers which individuals are capable of interbreeding, as well as the amount of genetic difference between populations of that species, but it may also be used to estimate when the species originated.

Here an article to read further on species concepts (quite decipherable for non scientists!)
https://www.britannica.com/science/species-taxon


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Klipspringer wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:15 am Taxonomic notes: The Southern African taxon of African Rock Python Python sebae natalensis was elevated to full species status by Broadley (1999). The validity of this assignment has however "not been fully resolved" (Schleip and O'Shea 2010), and as the name Python natalensis was first applied without an associated description, it has been argued that it is a nomen nudum (Branch and Bauer 2005). The existence of sympatric populations of the two taxa Python sebae and P. natalensis in northeastern Tanzania provides evidence for the validity of P. natalensis (Broadley 1999), however possible hybrids with intermediate characters are known from this region (Spawls et al. 2002). Consequently this species is accepted by most authors, but not recognized by others (e.g. Trape and Mané 2006, who consider P. sebae to range as far as South Africa).

You can call them African Rock Python or Southern African Python according to your choice of species concept.

Species, in biology, classification comprising related organisms that share common characteristics and are capable of interbreeding. This biological species concept is widely used in biology and related fields of study. There are more than 20 other different species concepts, however. Some examples include the ecological species concept, which describes a species as a group of organisms framed by the resources they depend on (in other words, their ecological niche), and the genetic species concept, which considers all organisms capable of inheriting traits from one another within a common gene pool and the amount of genetic difference between populations of that species. Like the biological species concept, the genetic species concept considers which individuals are capable of interbreeding, as well as the amount of genetic difference between populations of that species, but it may also be used to estimate when the species originated.

Here an article to read further on species concepts (quite decipherable for non scientists!)
https://www.britannica.com/science/species-taxon
I can't understand all :o0ps: sorry
but what about the specialist Johan Marais...


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The above is about Pythons not about snake specialists.


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