Mxotwa confirmed that some of the land forming part of the claims of the next phases, are located inside the KNP. In September, the cut-off date by which to lodge land claims was extended to December 31, 2018.
This is pertaining to the Londolozi Land Claim....but unsettling as the date has been extended until two National elections' time...
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Encrouchment, a situation any natural park needs to deal with.
It is unavoidable, a ever beckoning threat,...though where the
bigger concern lies, is in how the custodian can handle this,...
Our politicians will try any trick in the book so as to get the vote
for all future purpose and intent,....the politician filling that seat
of responsibility today, will have no qualms about the future one
and his/hers evils,....
Question????,.. how dedicated and diehard are our custodians in
safegaurding this small piece of wonderland.
It is unavoidable, a ever beckoning threat,...though where the
bigger concern lies, is in how the custodian can handle this,...
Our politicians will try any trick in the book so as to get the vote
for all future purpose and intent,....the politician filling that seat
of responsibility today, will have no qualms about the future one
and his/hers evils,....
Question????,.. how dedicated and diehard are our custodians in
safegaurding this small piece of wonderland.
Heh,.. H.e
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The men and women on the ground are mostly very dedicated in my experience, H.!
They miss leadership, I think? Sort of the story of the country...
They miss leadership, I think? Sort of the story of the country...
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MBOMBELA – The whole southern region of the Kruger National Park (KNP) has been included in a land claim by the Xistonga speaking N’waMhangane clan, which was evicted from the park in the 1950s.
The portion they are laying claim to, is the entire area from the Olifants River in the north to the Crocodile River in the south, the Lebombo Mountains and the Mozambican border in the east to the western border of the park.
Representatives of the clan said earlier that its history had been kept in limbo for decades and the claim for its ancestral land was the start to rectifying this.
The royal leader of the clan was Hosi N’waMhangane Charlie Sibuyi whose headmen – or indunas – were in charge of several residential areas in the park, during the mid-1900s.
They called the area KaNyamazane at the time.
The tribe is of Mozambican origin and lineage and according to notes by the late James Stevenson-Hamilton who was the first warden in the park, they were brave warriors and skilled hunters.
A lot of the elders shared their memories of being born in the park at places like Skukuza, Lower Sabie and Satara, among others.
The claim was officially filed at the offices of the Land Claims Commission in Mbombela earlier this week.
The chairman, Mr Moosa Makhanya, said this claim would dispel other false claims to the same land by its authenticity.
Spokesman for the KNP, Mr William Mabasa, said they had not yet been informed about the claim but he would welcome the clan to the fold, should they succeed.
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The portion they are laying claim to, is the entire area from the Olifants River in the north to the Crocodile River in the south, the Lebombo Mountains and the Mozambican border in the east to the western border of the park.
Representatives of the clan said earlier that its history had been kept in limbo for decades and the claim for its ancestral land was the start to rectifying this.
The royal leader of the clan was Hosi N’waMhangane Charlie Sibuyi whose headmen – or indunas – were in charge of several residential areas in the park, during the mid-1900s.
They called the area KaNyamazane at the time.
The tribe is of Mozambican origin and lineage and according to notes by the late James Stevenson-Hamilton who was the first warden in the park, they were brave warriors and skilled hunters.
A lot of the elders shared their memories of being born in the park at places like Skukuza, Lower Sabie and Satara, among others.
The claim was officially filed at the offices of the Land Claims Commission in Mbombela earlier this week.
The chairman, Mr Moosa Makhanya, said this claim would dispel other false claims to the same land by its authenticity.
Spokesman for the KNP, Mr William Mabasa, said they had not yet been informed about the claim but he would welcome the clan to the fold, should they succeed.
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The chairman, Mr Moosa Makhanya, said this claim would dispel other false claims to the same land by its authenticity.
That is the point...half the Lowveld is under new claims, from as far afield as Swaziland and KZN!
That is the point...half the Lowveld is under new claims, from as far afield as Swaziland and KZN!
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so maybe one of these days , half of KNP will belong to Mocambique No wonder they are already "harvesting " the animals such as Rhino's
Enough is enough
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Ja, as said before, after the massive Londolozi claim, a-la Dr Mabunda, many will see dollar signs. They know perfectly well that even should a Kruger claim be granted, it will be in the form of money/stakeholding, as the law says that land must remain conservation land....unless Honorable Members decide something else in Parliament...
These old early 1900's claims may seem a bit misleading...
When Kruger started, the indigenous inhabitants of the area were few and far between, and were not forcibly evicted, apartheid style. In fact apartheid only came about 50 years later.
The few kraals/settlements were allowed to carry on, under their respective chiefs/indunas, with most seeking employment at the camps by choice, as the article suggests.
So the settlements died a natural death, so to speak. This is more or less what is currently happening on the Moz side of the Transfrontier Park north of Massingir...government stimulated relocation.
These old early 1900's claims may seem a bit misleading...
When Kruger started, the indigenous inhabitants of the area were few and far between, and were not forcibly evicted, apartheid style. In fact apartheid only came about 50 years later.
The few kraals/settlements were allowed to carry on, under their respective chiefs/indunas, with most seeking employment at the camps by choice, as the article suggests.
So the settlements died a natural death, so to speak. This is more or less what is currently happening on the Moz side of the Transfrontier Park north of Massingir...government stimulated relocation.
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In fact take this one a step further back in life, for the sake of
goodness, means I have a right to a large claim in Denmark, cause
my ouma strolled along those avenues harvesting!!!
Now lipsubeff in turmoil, ';cause I'm laying claim, partially,
to her stoep!!!
Crazy comment, sorry,.......it crosses my mind daily, fact is
where does a nation accept responsibility?????
goodness, means I have a right to a large claim in Denmark, cause
my ouma strolled along those avenues harvesting!!!
Now lipsubeff in turmoil, ';cause I'm laying claim, partially,
to her stoep!!!
Crazy comment, sorry,.......it crosses my mind daily, fact is
where does a nation accept responsibility?????
Heh,.. H.e
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I think one can get political here, as the whole land claims thing has become a political football...the process was restarted just around last year's elections...
As said abundantly, SP have been using land claims as an excuse for commercialisation and community shareholding/involvement/handouts....while the process actually has absolutely nothing to do with them whatsoever.
As said abundantly, SP have been using land claims as an excuse for commercialisation and community shareholding/involvement/handouts....while the process actually has absolutely nothing to do with them whatsoever.
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