Yea right so much so for luck Seems as if I'm stuck with an old male nomad then
for the info Klipspringer
Insect or Invertebrates Identification - DONE
Moderator: Klipspringer
- mposthumus
- Posts: 958
- Joined: Thu May 31, 2012 9:51 pm
- Country: South Africa
- Location: Pretora
- Contact:
-
- Global Moderator
- Posts: 5858
- Joined: Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:34 pm
- Country: Germany
- Contact:
Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
That's what you get for this onemposthumus wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:39 pm Yea right so much so for luck Seems as if I'm stuck with an old male nomad then
for the info Klipspringer
But a spectacular find, not often seen in Kruger
- Lisbeth
- Site Admin
- Posts: 67186
- Joined: Sat May 19, 2012 12:31 pm
- Country: Switzerland
- Location: Lugano
- Contact:
Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
And now it is in our Africa Wild Invertebrates Book https://www.africawild-forum.com/viewto ... 89#p534689
"Education is the most powerful weapon which you can use to change the world." Nelson Mandela
The desire for equality must never exceed the demands of knowledge
The desire for equality must never exceed the demands of knowledge
- mposthumus
- Posts: 958
- Joined: Thu May 31, 2012 9:51 pm
- Country: South Africa
- Location: Pretora
- Contact:
- mposthumus
- Posts: 958
- Joined: Thu May 31, 2012 9:51 pm
- Country: South Africa
- Location: Pretora
- Contact:
Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Thx LisbethLisbeth wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:00 pm And now it is in our Africa Wild Invertebrates Book https://www.africawild-forum.com/viewto ... 89#p534689
-
- Global Moderator
- Posts: 5858
- Joined: Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:34 pm
- Country: Germany
- Contact:
Re: AW Insect Book: Mantids (Mantodea) Pics & Descriptions
ExFmem wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:41 pm African Mantis Miomantis sp. (Saussure 1870)
Superfamily Miomantoidea. Family Miomantidae. Subfamily Miomantinae. Tribe Miomantini
Genus Miomantis
Miomantis is a large genus comprising about 65 named species distributed in Egypt and eastern and southern Africa (Beier 1935c, Schoeman 1985, Roy 1987b). It is in urgent need of revision, as many of the species named by Giglio-Tos are based on color only. Beier(1955) points out that the only certain way of distinguishing the species is by way of the structure and form of the male genitalia.
2016 KTP by ExF
Diagnosis.
*Moderately small mantids, variably green/brown in color.
*Head broader than long, distinctly wider than pronotum, especially in female; ocelli and antennae inserted on anterior face, the ocelli without prominent tubercles or elevations and the antennae filiform; frons much wider than high, with corners more or less rounded; eyes rounded or conical but not projecting.
*Pronotum moderately slender, anteriorly rounded and narrower than posterior, with a flat, oval, weak supracoxal swelling, the disc, which in female is occasionally granular with serrated edges.
*Wings present in both sexes; in male well developed, hyaline, occasionally somewhat smoky, the tegmina having a longitudinal coloured stripe between costal and discoidal fields; in female somewhat shortened, variable in length, opaque, the tegmina with costal field at most half as wide as discoidal field.
*Raptorial legs strong; coxa longer than metazone of pronotum, with strongly developed denticles; femur moderately slender, with 4 discoidal and
4 outer teeth; ventral surface around outer teeth with several denticles; claw-furrow situated in proximal half of femur; tibia with 7 teeth in outer row.
*Middle and hind legs normal; middle metatarsus as long as other segments together, hind metatarsus longer.
*Suranal plate triangular, not elongate. Cerci moderately short, simple.
*Sexual dimorphism strong.
Links:
https://www.biotaxa.org/fnz/article/viewFile/1765/2911
http://biodiversityadvisor.sanbi.org/wp ... todea.xlsx
ExFmem
found this
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/6039632
Should we consider this maybe?
Somehow I am not happy with our Miomantis idea
(we can discuss here and later move to the ID topic where currently Richprins and Lisbeth are fooling around)
Re: AW Insect Book: Mantids (Mantodea) Pics & Descriptions
Sure. Let me give it some thought later today and will see what I can come up with.
- Richprins
- Committee Member
- Posts: 76014
- Joined: Sat May 19, 2012 3:52 pm
- Location: NELSPRUIT
- Contact:
Re: AW Insect Book: Mantids (Mantodea) Pics & Descriptions
You can just ID there!Klipspringer wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 7:37 pm
(we can discuss here and later move to the ID topic where currently Richprins and Lisbeth are fooling around)
Please check Needs Attention pre-booking: https://africawild-forum.com/viewtopic.php?f=322&t=596
- Lisbeth
- Site Admin
- Posts: 67186
- Joined: Sat May 19, 2012 12:31 pm
- Country: Switzerland
- Location: Lugano
- Contact:
Re: AW Insect Book: Mantids (Mantodea) Pics & Descriptions
(we can discuss here and later move to the ID topic where currently Richprins and Lisbeth are fooling around)
"Education is the most powerful weapon which you can use to change the world." Nelson Mandela
The desire for equality must never exceed the demands of knowledge
The desire for equality must never exceed the demands of knowledge
Re: AW Insect Book: Mantids (Mantodea) Pics & Descriptions
Same story, different day for me…
On superficial resemblance it looks great, but as so many experts have confirmed, that’s not nearly the final word. I see the species/subspecies and known locales, so looks promising, but I couldn’t find any definitive literature on Miomantis as compared to Bisanthe. This link about B. menyharthi and its subspecies is in German (which is all Greek to me ) and I hoped it would at least give some identification keys to Bisanthe.
https://www.zobodat.at/pdf/ANNA_96B_0059-0067.pdf
Note: Bisanthe menyharthi (B. menyharthi ssp. menyharthi= B. Modesta)
. Genus: Bisanthe Stal, 1876
. Bisanthe lagrecai Kaltenbach, 1996 [Transvaal, Zimbabwe]
. Bisanthe menyharthi menyharthi (Brancsik, 1895) [Mozambique, Zambia, Zimbabwe]
. Bisanthe menyharthi raggei Kaltenbach, 1994 [Zimbabwe, Botswana]
. Bisanthe pulchripennis (Stal, 1876) [Botswana, Namibia, Transvaal]
. Bisanthe tricolor Werner, 1923 [Botswana, Namibia, Transvaal]
I know, thanks for nothing, pretty much.
On superficial resemblance it looks great, but as so many experts have confirmed, that’s not nearly the final word. I see the species/subspecies and known locales, so looks promising, but I couldn’t find any definitive literature on Miomantis as compared to Bisanthe. This link about B. menyharthi and its subspecies is in German (which is all Greek to me ) and I hoped it would at least give some identification keys to Bisanthe.
https://www.zobodat.at/pdf/ANNA_96B_0059-0067.pdf
Note: Bisanthe menyharthi (B. menyharthi ssp. menyharthi= B. Modesta)
. Genus: Bisanthe Stal, 1876
. Bisanthe lagrecai Kaltenbach, 1996 [Transvaal, Zimbabwe]
. Bisanthe menyharthi menyharthi (Brancsik, 1895) [Mozambique, Zambia, Zimbabwe]
. Bisanthe menyharthi raggei Kaltenbach, 1994 [Zimbabwe, Botswana]
. Bisanthe pulchripennis (Stal, 1876) [Botswana, Namibia, Transvaal]
. Bisanthe tricolor Werner, 1923 [Botswana, Namibia, Transvaal]
I know, thanks for nothing, pretty much.