Open Safari Vehicles in Kruger

[Bushcraft]

The problem with letting them in earlier than regular visits is that cats which are on the road will probably move off once all the OSVs arrive!

I don't have a problem letting them in early, but then apply the same rules to the paying overnight visitor and let him out the same time OSV's are permitted in.

Even better idea. Multiply the day visitor entry price by 3 and halve the numbers permitted, therefore more money and less congestion, so no need for anything

[Richprins]

Agreed, Scips and BC!

Except for camp visitors also going out early? How will that help congestion?

[Bushcraft]

Who’s worried about congestion in the mornings at gates Day visitors and OSV’s, not overnight visitors who pay the “real money” to stay in the park, so as an overnight visitor why should one care about congestion at the gates.

Congestion in the park is the real issue surely, so instead of “making a plan” for OSV’s, shouldn’t they “be making a plan” for the overnight visitor who is sick of having chaos at sightings.

Surely overnight visitors are more important than OSV’s

Let overnight visitors out and 2 hours later let OSV’s and day visitors in the park

[Richprins]

Hey! Us day visitors like to enter outside gates early sometimes, and are met with queues of osv's?

Your queues inside the camps are a separate issue, and won't change no matter what time? You are in the Park already, and part of the quota!

[Bushcraft]

Aren’t queues outside better than queues inside. Leave them outside

Letting people out of camps earlier. It’s about timing. More overnight visitors would finish their morning drives half an hour earlier, so less traffic on the roads during the real chaos times, which definitely isn’t the first 4 hours in the morning.

OSV’s earlier. Does this mean 5:30am in June/July etc . I remember driving in the dark for half an hour during these months and that’s leaving camp at 6am, so do OSV’s get an hour in the park in the dark or are day visitors going to get delayed by half an hour and does this mean overnight visitors are delayed by half an hour by default

Part of the quota. From the quota survey that indicates the south can take more cars per km easily. The quota is wrong already at the gates. Less vehicles for more money and there’s no need for special OSV solutions.

BTW, is there going to be an EIA for these special OSV picnic areas

[Scipio]

The OSV Problem has been sorted, they will now be going in an hour earlier and leave an hour later and drive the no entry(Certain) roads according to what Glenn Phillips told the lowvelder.

[Richprins]

Scipio's words have come to pass!











Today's Lowvelder...they asked the correct questions!


Underlined in red are the most relevant parts.


In the pic top right is Groovy, one of our older members. Lowvelder asked us who the most reputable OSV operator was, as far as we knew!

A great friend and a good guy to have on that committee. But there are pro's and cons, especially in the long term.



http://lowvelder.co.za/267263/tourism-i ... e-service/

[H. erectus]

Once again the realms of arrogance persists!!!

viewtopic.php?f=79&t=5079&p=269385#p269385

Their satisfaction will come first and before any other benevolence!!

They seem to believe that they behold the ultimate gift to mankind!!!

[Scipio]

I do have to disagree there about responsibility of Groovy. I took this picture after all the guests were outside the OSV on the S 90. Some of the men having a wee as far as 10 meters from the vehicle. I can post those pics but they are pornographic. I gave the pics to Sanparks that did nothing. Posted it on social media and since then has been threatened various times by Groovy's guides. (I shiver ) in the park with them taking photos with blackberries and sending it around of my truck. Also various incidents on the road, trying to push me into accidents.

I do not think these guys are responsible enough.

But then, some of the other companies are great(The OSV's) I mean. It was only one of the men on that committee that I doubt.

[nan]

pornographic... to have a wee

they can't have a wee just around the car