Re: Rhino Poaching 2015
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 4:05 pm
as usual another frustrating long day in court
Court was postponed for two hours as they forgot to bring Hugo Rass from Jail!!!
Then was postponed for another two hours as another case was being heard -
Thanks to Allison for the updates - from court
Allison Thomson Court is in session
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Allison Thomson Prosecutor going through each accused and detailing whether or not they have asked for further particulars or not.
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Allison Thomson Magistrate is asking each of the accused attorneys whether they will be asking for further particulars and enquiring as to whether their clients have secured funding for their defence etc.
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Allison Thomson Anton Ras has appointed new attorneys and they may still ask for further particulars but will not delay the matter going to the High Court.
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Allison Thomson Problem nows lies with Hugo, Trudi and Anton as the Prosecutor cannot go to the Supreme Court and ask for a court date without having taking care of Further Particulars from these 3. This case cannot be held up by these three as it is not fair on the other accused.
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Allison Thomson Ras's lawyers are saying that he cannot focus on reading the 6000 dossier of affidavits for the case until he has finished doing the bail appeal as he is using his time to focus on that and then only can he focus on putting in a request for further particulars.
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Allison Thomson There is also an issue of funds for Hgo and TrUni. Persecutor has suggested that in the meantime they should at least apply for legal aid for the case in case they cannot afford private counsel after the bail appeal is finished. Prosecutor is saying that there is no guarantee that if this is delayed again that the next time they appear that the same excuses will be used to delay the case again.
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Allison Thomson It was accused 1,2 & 9 that delayed the case last time. The attorney for the accused is asking for another 2 months.
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Allison Thomson Accused nine wants to make an appication to have his bail conditions changed. He has to report on Wednesday and Friday every week at the police station and wants to have it changed to once a week. This will be heard on another date.
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Allison Thomson court is adjourned. When I get home I will post all the new court dates for each different application
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New court dates for the Ras syndicate are as follows:
14 September - all the accused will appear for a date to be set down in the High Court for the case to be heard.
10 July - Accused 1 & 2 to appear in Pretoria Magistrate's Court (after the Bail appeal that will take place between now and then - Col Jooste will notify me when a date has been set to hear Hugo's bail appeal).
21 July - Accused 5 to appear in Pretoria Magistrate's court
23 June - Accused 2,9 & 10 to appear to have bail conditions modified.
1. Hugo Ras (Ringleader)
2, Trudi Ras (wife of Ringleader)
3. Mandla Magaguka (poacher)
4. Willie Oosthuizen (Organized Crime)
5. Joseph Wilkinson (Attorney)
6. Jacobus Steyn aka Bonnie Steyn (Pilot)
7. Abraham Johannes Smit (Trudi Ras's brother)
8. Christopher Scheepers aka Mathys (Free State)
9. Anton Ras (brother of Hugo)
10. Willem van Jaarsveld ( Poacher )
Court was postponed for two hours as they forgot to bring Hugo Rass from Jail!!!
Then was postponed for another two hours as another case was being heard -
Thanks to Allison for the updates - from court
Allison Thomson Court is in session
4 hrs · Like
Allison Thomson Prosecutor going through each accused and detailing whether or not they have asked for further particulars or not.
4 hrs · Like
Allison Thomson Magistrate is asking each of the accused attorneys whether they will be asking for further particulars and enquiring as to whether their clients have secured funding for their defence etc.
4 hrs · Like · 1
Allison Thomson Anton Ras has appointed new attorneys and they may still ask for further particulars but will not delay the matter going to the High Court.
4 hrs · Like · 2
Allison Thomson Problem nows lies with Hugo, Trudi and Anton as the Prosecutor cannot go to the Supreme Court and ask for a court date without having taking care of Further Particulars from these 3. This case cannot be held up by these three as it is not fair on the other accused.
4 hrs · Like · 3
Allison Thomson Ras's lawyers are saying that he cannot focus on reading the 6000 dossier of affidavits for the case until he has finished doing the bail appeal as he is using his time to focus on that and then only can he focus on putting in a request for further particulars.
4 hrs · Like · 2
Allison Thomson There is also an issue of funds for Hgo and TrUni. Persecutor has suggested that in the meantime they should at least apply for legal aid for the case in case they cannot afford private counsel after the bail appeal is finished. Prosecutor is saying that there is no guarantee that if this is delayed again that the next time they appear that the same excuses will be used to delay the case again.
3 hrs · Like
Allison Thomson It was accused 1,2 & 9 that delayed the case last time. The attorney for the accused is asking for another 2 months.
2 hrs · Edited · Like
Allison Thomson Accused nine wants to make an appication to have his bail conditions changed. He has to report on Wednesday and Friday every week at the police station and wants to have it changed to once a week. This will be heard on another date.
3 hrs · Like
Allison Thomson court is adjourned. When I get home I will post all the new court dates for each different application
3 hrs · Like · 5
New court dates for the Ras syndicate are as follows:
14 September - all the accused will appear for a date to be set down in the High Court for the case to be heard.
10 July - Accused 1 & 2 to appear in Pretoria Magistrate's Court (after the Bail appeal that will take place between now and then - Col Jooste will notify me when a date has been set to hear Hugo's bail appeal).
21 July - Accused 5 to appear in Pretoria Magistrate's court
23 June - Accused 2,9 & 10 to appear to have bail conditions modified.
1. Hugo Ras (Ringleader)
2, Trudi Ras (wife of Ringleader)
3. Mandla Magaguka (poacher)
4. Willie Oosthuizen (Organized Crime)
5. Joseph Wilkinson (Attorney)
6. Jacobus Steyn aka Bonnie Steyn (Pilot)
7. Abraham Johannes Smit (Trudi Ras's brother)
8. Christopher Scheepers aka Mathys (Free State)
9. Anton Ras (brother of Hugo)
10. Willem van Jaarsveld ( Poacher )