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Ezemvelo defends donation of wild animals to Zwelithini
February 8 2013 at 10:04am
By BHEKI MBANJWA
The donation of wild animals to King Goodwill Zwelithini by nature conservation body Ezemvelo KZN Wildlife caused a stir at the provincial legislature on Thursday.
This was after it emerged during a committee meeting that wild animals worth about R400 000 had been donated to the Zulu monarch since 2009.
This included eight buffalo (worth about R24 804 each), two baboons, two giraffes (R10 458 each), two duikers and five hippos (each worth R34 500).
One of these animals was the carcass of a hippo donated for the king’s reed dance in September. The hippo had been deemed a problem animal after it had attacked an Ezemvelo staff member.
Finance portfolio committee chairwoman Belinda Scott wanted to know why they were given to King Zwelithini, who she said could afford to pay for them.
“The amount that you give to his majesty the king is a lot,” she told Ezemvelo chief executive Bandile Mkhize. “And he has a huge budget of his own. I’m not sure why he does not pay for it.”
Mkhize defended the donations, saying the king had been a good ambassador for conservation in the province.
“I suggest the legislature take (the matter) up with the king themselves because when the king asks for baboon, and we have a baboon available, we will definitely give the baboon to the king,” he said.
“(When) this house says to us ‘Please stop giving these animals to the king’, we will go to the king and say: ‘The legislature told us not to give these animals (to you).’”
Mkhize said the animals requested by King Zwelithini were not for himself but for communities.
Blessed Gwala, the IFP legislative leader, also stressed that the animals were donated to communities and not the king.
Mkhize said the animals were donated to communities because of the need to include them in nature conservation efforts.
The donations are mainly for traditional functions, he said, adding that most of the wild animals were used at such functions for centuries, “before we fenced them in and took them away from the communities”.
February 8 2013 at 10:04am
By BHEKI MBANJWA
The donation of wild animals to King Goodwill Zwelithini by nature conservation body Ezemvelo KZN Wildlife caused a stir at the provincial legislature on Thursday.
This was after it emerged during a committee meeting that wild animals worth about R400 000 had been donated to the Zulu monarch since 2009.
This included eight buffalo (worth about R24 804 each), two baboons, two giraffes (R10 458 each), two duikers and five hippos (each worth R34 500).
One of these animals was the carcass of a hippo donated for the king’s reed dance in September. The hippo had been deemed a problem animal after it had attacked an Ezemvelo staff member.
Finance portfolio committee chairwoman Belinda Scott wanted to know why they were given to King Zwelithini, who she said could afford to pay for them.
“The amount that you give to his majesty the king is a lot,” she told Ezemvelo chief executive Bandile Mkhize. “And he has a huge budget of his own. I’m not sure why he does not pay for it.”
Mkhize defended the donations, saying the king had been a good ambassador for conservation in the province.
“I suggest the legislature take (the matter) up with the king themselves because when the king asks for baboon, and we have a baboon available, we will definitely give the baboon to the king,” he said.
“(When) this house says to us ‘Please stop giving these animals to the king’, we will go to the king and say: ‘The legislature told us not to give these animals (to you).’”
Mkhize said the animals requested by King Zwelithini were not for himself but for communities.
Blessed Gwala, the IFP legislative leader, also stressed that the animals were donated to communities and not the king.
Mkhize said the animals were donated to communities because of the need to include them in nature conservation efforts.
The donations are mainly for traditional functions, he said, adding that most of the wild animals were used at such functions for centuries, “before we fenced them in and took them away from the communities”.
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Donation to the king causes tiff
February 8 2013 at 02:47pm
By Sipho Khumalo
Durban - Feisty ANC MPL Belinda Scott, the chairwoman of the KZN legislature’s finance portfolio committee, caused a row among committee members on Thursday when she questioned the donation of wild animals, including two baboons, to King Goodwill Zwelithini by KZN Ezemvelo Wildlife.
Chairing a joint sitting of the standing committee on public accounts and finance portfolio committee in the legislature in Pietermaritzburg on Thursday, a defiant Scott wanted to know why Ezemvelo donated animals to the king who had his own budget.
This was despite several attempts by committee members to warn her about the “sensitivity” of the matter and the likelihood of media interest in a matter involving the king. However, she persisted with her questions.
“Close to R400 000 worth of animals were donated to the king.
“Was this subjected to taxation? It should have been taxed,” said a defiant Scott.
Fellow ANC MPL Siboniso Duma warned Scott about being quoted out of context in this matter, pointing out again that the media were present.
“For me, some of these things are better said in-camera,” warned Duma.
Some IFP MPLs were heard muttering that they wanted to distance themselves from the comments made by Scott.
Blessed Gwala, leader of the IFP in the legislature, warned about dragging the king’s name into the matter.
“When you mention the name of the king, it is very sensitive and people might think you are saying these animals were donated to his majesty as an individual, but it is for the communities. We do not want to hear outside this meeting that the name of the king was dragged into this issue,” said Gwala.
A list of animals donated to the king and tabled by Ezemvelo chief executive Bandile Mkhize indicated the Zulu monarch was given eight buffalo, two baboons, two giraffe, two grey duiker and five hippo. The donations were made from 2009 until recently.
A visibly angry Mkhize urged Scott to put herself in the shoes of Ezemvelo with regard to the requests for donations of animals from the king.
“If these issues that pertain to the king have to be taken up then I do not think we are the relevant people to take them up with.
“I suggest the legislature must take it up with the king because when the king requests a baboon and we have a baboon available, we will definitely give the baboon to the king,” Mkhize said.
“Unless this House says to us please stop giving these animals to the king, we will go to the king and say the legislature told us not to give these animals because of ABC.
“From where we are, we believe we have nurtured a good working relationship with the king. He has spoken out on the issue of rhino poaching and has been a good ambassador for us.
“So I do not see a situation where the king of a nation would just go out there and say I want all these animals for myself. That is not the case. It is for the benefit of the communities,” said Mkhize.
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The Mercury
February 8 2013 at 02:47pm
By Sipho Khumalo
Durban - Feisty ANC MPL Belinda Scott, the chairwoman of the KZN legislature’s finance portfolio committee, caused a row among committee members on Thursday when she questioned the donation of wild animals, including two baboons, to King Goodwill Zwelithini by KZN Ezemvelo Wildlife.
Chairing a joint sitting of the standing committee on public accounts and finance portfolio committee in the legislature in Pietermaritzburg on Thursday, a defiant Scott wanted to know why Ezemvelo donated animals to the king who had his own budget.
This was despite several attempts by committee members to warn her about the “sensitivity” of the matter and the likelihood of media interest in a matter involving the king. However, she persisted with her questions.
“Close to R400 000 worth of animals were donated to the king.
“Was this subjected to taxation? It should have been taxed,” said a defiant Scott.
Fellow ANC MPL Siboniso Duma warned Scott about being quoted out of context in this matter, pointing out again that the media were present.
“For me, some of these things are better said in-camera,” warned Duma.
Some IFP MPLs were heard muttering that they wanted to distance themselves from the comments made by Scott.
Blessed Gwala, leader of the IFP in the legislature, warned about dragging the king’s name into the matter.
“When you mention the name of the king, it is very sensitive and people might think you are saying these animals were donated to his majesty as an individual, but it is for the communities. We do not want to hear outside this meeting that the name of the king was dragged into this issue,” said Gwala.
A list of animals donated to the king and tabled by Ezemvelo chief executive Bandile Mkhize indicated the Zulu monarch was given eight buffalo, two baboons, two giraffe, two grey duiker and five hippo. The donations were made from 2009 until recently.
A visibly angry Mkhize urged Scott to put herself in the shoes of Ezemvelo with regard to the requests for donations of animals from the king.
“If these issues that pertain to the king have to be taken up then I do not think we are the relevant people to take them up with.
“I suggest the legislature must take it up with the king because when the king requests a baboon and we have a baboon available, we will definitely give the baboon to the king,” Mkhize said.
“Unless this House says to us please stop giving these animals to the king, we will go to the king and say the legislature told us not to give these animals because of ABC.
“From where we are, we believe we have nurtured a good working relationship with the king. He has spoken out on the issue of rhino poaching and has been a good ambassador for us.
“So I do not see a situation where the king of a nation would just go out there and say I want all these animals for myself. That is not the case. It is for the benefit of the communities,” said Mkhize.
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This is hilarious, speaking as a baboon! More to follow after consultations with donated primates to the community!! 
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Ezemvelo CEO defends decision on hippo donation
Wednesday 20 February 2013 16:48
SABC
Chief Executive Officer of KwaZulu-Natal conservation body Ezemvelo, Bandile Mkhize, has defended his decision to donate surplus wildlife to the Zulu royal household and amakhosi if it’s required for traditional ceremonies.
The stance comes amid controversy over the donation of a St. Lucia hippo to be feasted-on at last year's Reed Dance ceremony. Initially, iSimangaliso Wetland Park Authority said the hippo would be sold after it mauled a resident.
Mkhize has pointed out that says some traditional Zulu ceremonies will not be complete without certain animals, adding that Ezemvelo has to consider all sections of society on whose behalf they are conserving wildlife.
"If we mess up with some of those relationships then we've got a problem moving into the future. That’s why we say we must always look at the bigger picture. We must look further than our noses in how we maintain some of the relationships we have with all stakeholders that we work with," says Mkhize.
On a different note, Mkhize says Ezemvelo is planning to buy a helicopter to hunt rhino poachers. Last year, a private helicopter was used with great success to curb rhino poaching in Hluhluwe-Mfolozi using funds from donors.
South Africa last year lost a record total of 668 rhinos to poachers whereas this year poachers have already killed 10 rhino in the province. According to Mkhize, R47 million has been allocated to Ezemvelo over two years to boost its war against poachers.
To further strengthen the war against rhino poachers, Ezemvelo will employ 300 community rhino ambassadors at the Tembe, Ndumo and Weenen parks after success with this project around Hluhluwe-Mfolozi Park.
Wednesday 20 February 2013 16:48
SABC
Chief Executive Officer of KwaZulu-Natal conservation body Ezemvelo, Bandile Mkhize, has defended his decision to donate surplus wildlife to the Zulu royal household and amakhosi if it’s required for traditional ceremonies.
The stance comes amid controversy over the donation of a St. Lucia hippo to be feasted-on at last year's Reed Dance ceremony. Initially, iSimangaliso Wetland Park Authority said the hippo would be sold after it mauled a resident.
Mkhize has pointed out that says some traditional Zulu ceremonies will not be complete without certain animals, adding that Ezemvelo has to consider all sections of society on whose behalf they are conserving wildlife.
"If we mess up with some of those relationships then we've got a problem moving into the future. That’s why we say we must always look at the bigger picture. We must look further than our noses in how we maintain some of the relationships we have with all stakeholders that we work with," says Mkhize.
On a different note, Mkhize says Ezemvelo is planning to buy a helicopter to hunt rhino poachers. Last year, a private helicopter was used with great success to curb rhino poaching in Hluhluwe-Mfolozi using funds from donors.
South Africa last year lost a record total of 668 rhinos to poachers whereas this year poachers have already killed 10 rhino in the province. According to Mkhize, R47 million has been allocated to Ezemvelo over two years to boost its war against poachers.
To further strengthen the war against rhino poachers, Ezemvelo will employ 300 community rhino ambassadors at the Tembe, Ndumo and Weenen parks after success with this project around Hluhluwe-Mfolozi Park.
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After the report Ezemvelo KZN Wildlife CEO Bandile Mkhize, who allegedly ordered the possibly illegal killing of the two lions, lashed out at his critics, accusing them of being nostalgic for the days of apartheid.
Richprins wrote: Mkhize needs to learn from SANParks that playing the race card doesn't work anymore, and is just a pathetic and obvious knee-jerk attempt to displace attention from maladministration.
The truth is that most Chiefs, or a King in this case, have a selfish approach to their rights to utilise wildlife, and conveniently attribute that to "tradition".
If they wish to acquire wild animals, they can buy them like everyone else. They have the money.
Ezemvelo are being held to ransom here, according to their own logic, but should have the guts to tell the traditional leaders to get lost!
Traditions can be adapted easily and realistically, in the spirit of harmony and foresight, in the 21st century. End of story.
Apartheid is of course the mother of all defences. When there is unanswerable criticism they latch on to apartheid.
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Agreed, troupant!
But it's a lot more subtle these days with SANParks, as advised by their legal department! Been there!
But it's a lot more subtle these days with SANParks, as advised by their legal department! Been there!
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