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Re: Jumping Spider IDs and Comments

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:41 pm
by ExFmem
Definitely for the pics that show the abdomen = ^Q^ S. guttiger. Same for those w/out dorsal view (first and last of #4 series)? I know so very little about spider ID any little variation can throw me off. 0- 0- :-?

Also, might these 3 ( all same spider) also be S. guttiger, tho’ the abdominal pattern isn’t quite as distinct, it does have 3 white spots. (Looks like your more recent post on S.guttiger would answer the question as "Yes".


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As far as #3, I don't think it's the same as #4. I also think I have another spider series that may be the same as # 3, and perhaps somewhat better pics. Will reexamine and edit the #3 post to include more angles if so.

Re: Jumping Spider IDs and Comments

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 8:15 pm
by Klipspringer
re no 4:
specimens have dark brown, almost black dorsum with only one caudal white spot
and looking at the photos here: Redefinition and partial revision of the genus Stenaelurillus Simon, 1886 (Arachnida, Araneae, Salticidae)
Dmitri V. LOGUNOV,* & Galina N. AZARKINA

I think, same species

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for no 3 I have no clue so far - but I think we are doing very well with IDing at least some X#X

Re: Jumping Spider IDs and Comments

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:12 am
by ExFmem
I’m writing up the S. guttiger entry, so want to check if you agree these are also the same. Thanks.

All Kruger, varying years.

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(Now my SO is gonna mutiny, so gotta go make dinner. 0/* )

Re: Jumping Spider IDs and Comments

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:58 am
by Klipspringer
Re additional S. guttiger:

The second one looks matching, but I am not sure about the others, the abdomen stripe one the last one looks nothing like all the photos I have seen, and the first one has the eyes encircled in white :-?

If I knew if this genus is the only one with the two stripes, it would be easier O-/
So far there are only 3 species recorded for SA, but as we know, this might change. This genus is very widespread and has lots of members.
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Here the best genus description
http://sciencepress.mnhn.fr/sites/defau ... 14n3a3.pdf

Have added the Hyllus argyrotoxus.

Re: Jumping Spider IDs and Comments

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:38 pm
by ExFmem
ExFmem wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:12 am I’m writing up the S. guttiger entry, so want to check if you agree these are also the same. Thanks.

All Kruger, varying years.

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You had thought this one is not S. guttiger due to white around the eyes.

However, the one I posted on pg. 4 (middle pic) also has white around the eyes

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So that one is NOT S. guttiger either? Thanks.

Re: Jumping Spider IDs and Comments

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:47 pm
by Klipspringer
You are right! O/ :o0ps:

I don't know, but I think the red around the eyes is an essential feature

Re: Jumping Spider IDs and Comments

Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:36 pm
by ExFmem
Okay, I'm gonna post the entry in the AW book in a little while, but will only use the original pics that we are "sure" ;-) about.

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Re: Jumping Spider IDs and Comments

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:52 pm
by Klipspringer
ExFmem wrote: Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:27 pm I just entered those two in the book, but left out the pics of file 6 pending your opinion on whether it is the same (as file 16 I posted in the actual entry). Thanks!
I have done the other one (file 6) as Menemerus sp. only.

Everything completed now X#X

Re: Jumping Spider IDs and Comments

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:37 pm
by ExFmem
X#X X#X (If you need me to give it a rest ;-) for a week or so, no problem.)

Prev. Posted in book as Thyene sp.

also Thyene leighi ??

viewtopic.php?p=266249#p266249

Re: Jumping Spider IDs and Comments

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:41 pm
by ExFmem
Are these also possibly Menemerus bifurcus ? (viewtopic.php?p=498274#p498274)
Sept./Kruger - taken 4 days later than the above

2017 file 9

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It looks like it MAY also have the white "knees" if you look close at pics 2 and 3, there is a white line at the joint near the right eye. -O-