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Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 9:40 pm
by ExFmem
Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 9:41 pm
by ExFmem
KTP

Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 10:20 pm
by Klipspringer
Do you have a more dorsal view of the brown one?
I think it's in the Fulgoridae
One of these:
Subfamily Strongylodematinae Fennah, 1962
Tribe Capocleini Emeljanov, 2004
Capocles Emeljanov, 2004
Tribe Strongylodematini Stål, 1853
Capenopsis Melichar, 1912
Codon Fennah, 1962
Strongylodemas Stål, 1853
Tecmar Fennah, 1962
https://www.hemiptera-databases.org/flowpdf/2500.pdf
check fig 2 in this paper and description
https://www.hemiptera-databases.org/flowpdf/3443.pdf
Is there anything in the field guide?
Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 10:33 pm
by Klipspringer
The green one is in the Dictyopharidae, subfamily Dictyopharinae, but other than that I have no clue and nothing for reference.
Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 10:35 pm
by Klipspringer
Thanks for the bee-fly photo, looks like another
Anastoechus , you have quite a collection of these

Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 11:45 pm
by ExFmem

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(KTP)
Is this the same as:
Egyptian Hoverfly
Ischiodon aegyptius
Family: Syrphidae. Subfamily: Syrphinae. Tribe: Syrphini
https://africawild-forum.com/viewtopic. ... 47#p178447

Female, Kgalagadi Transfrontier Park, Mata Mata © ExFmem
thanks! - Will get to the other replies from you

later - dinner time.

Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 6:28 am
by Klipspringer
ExFmem wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 11:45 pm
Is this the same as:
Egyptian Hoverfly
Ischiodon aegyptius
Family: Syrphidae. Subfamily: Syrphinae. Tribe: Syrphini

Added

and like it

Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 7:35 pm
by ExFmem
Re: plant hoppers -
The Guidebook (Picker, etc) says Fulgoridae can be distinguished from related families by the combination of a very swollen first antennal segment, bearing a small bristle, and a network of veins in the fan-like basal (anal) area of the hindwing.
Dictyopharidae have wings narrow, often clear, but without network of tiny veins in the anal area….
I do not have any pics of the brown one dorsally. Both the brown and green one have similar antennae, and I obviously can’t see the hindwing of the brown one….so I’m fine with the green one being a Dictyopharidae and the brown being a Fulgoridae.
Seems most of the papers I’ve read on those two Families (from various areas worldwide), indicate a confused state presently, with definitive IDs and diagnostics in flux.
Will just have to put them away for now.

But they are lil’ cutie pies.

Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 7:42 pm
by Klipspringer
Ja, this subfamily of the brown ones has travelled around the taxonomic world, but I have checked again and I am almost convinced that we have the same as Fig 2.
Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 7:48 pm
by ExFmem
I certainly agree with that.
