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Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:59 pm
by Klipspringer
ExFmem wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2016 3:01 pm

Also a praying (preying) mantis

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This one might be Mantis religiosa, which is recorded from all over Africa, also from Namibia and some arid places -O-

Or Miomantis caffra -O- there are some on the www with yellow margins -O-

Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:49 pm
by ExFmem
Will certainly look into your new info. - the Picker, Griffiths, Weaving Field Guide shows distribution for Miomantis as being the entire country of S. Africa, but notes, "There are 10 easily confused species in the region." -O- Of course classifications are somewhat fluid as new studies are conducted, so that may be incorrect as well.

Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:55 am
by Klipspringer
The SANBI List has these records for Miomantis sp.

Miomantis aequalis KwaZulu Natal
Miomantis binotata KwaZulu Natal (?)
Miomantis brevipennis ?
Miomantis caffra Western Cape, Eastern Cape, KwaZulu Natal, Mpumalanga, Gauteng, North West, Limpopo
Miomantis coxalis Western Cape, Eastern Cape, KwaZulu Natal, Limpopo
Miomantis exilis Western Cape, Eastern Cape, Free State, Gauteng, Limpopo
Miomantis fenestrata Northern Cape, North West
Miomantis helenae Mpumalanga, North West, Limpopo
Miomantis lacualis ?
Miomantis minuta "Cape Province"
Miomantis moerana ?"Transvaal"
Miomantis monacha "Cape Province", KwaZulu Natal, "Transvaal"
Miomantis natalica KwaZulu Natal, Limpopo
Miomantis paykulli ?
Miomantis prasina "Cape Province", Limpopo
Miomantis quadripunctata Western Cape, Eastern Cape, KwaZulu Natal, Limpopo
Miomantis saussurei KwaZulu Natal
Miomantis semialata Western Cape, Eastern Cape, KwaZulu Natal, "Transvaal"
Mantidae distribution.jpg
A map with Mantide distribution records from this thesis: closest to KTP: M. exilis
BM Greyvenstein: Distribution of Mantodea in South Africa and biological studies of selected species

Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:24 am
by Klipspringer
ExFmem wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:49 pm Will certainly look into your new info. - the Picker, Griffiths, Weaving Field Guide shows distribution for Miomantis as being the entire country of S. Africa, but notes, "There are 10 easily confused species in the region." -O- Of course classifications are somewhat fluid as new studies are conducted, so that may be incorrect as well.

I think, it is reasonably safe to say it's a species in the subfamily Miomantinae, Miomantis sp. or Taumantis sp.

Check these, they look all alike 0-
https://specimens.mantodearesearch.com/species/644
http://mantodea.myspecies.info/file-colorboxed/92

Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:19 am
by mposthumus
Just received this picture from a friend. She has a tree full of them and wants to know what it is and what she can use to get rid of them!!! O-/ I asked her to please hang on before she does because one does not kill anything on sight and that I send her an answer from the "experts" ;-)
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Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:51 pm
by Klipspringer
mposthumus wrote: Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:19 am Just received this picture from a friend. She has a tree full of them and wants to know what it is and what she can use to get rid of them!!! O-/ I asked her to please hang on before she does because one does not kill anything on sight and that I send her an answer from the "experts" ;-)

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A Cabbage Tree Emperor Moth caterpillar (Bunaea alcinoe). They can defoliate a cabbage tree but the tree will recover. The caterpillars are edible!

Ask a gardener for advice if you don't want to have them around -O-

Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:17 pm
by mposthumus
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A Cabbage Tree Emperor Moth caterpillar (Bunaea alcinoe). They can defoliate a cabbage tree but the tree will recover. The caterpillars are edible!

Ask a gardener for advice if you don't want to have them around -O-
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:ty: Klipspringer

Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:22 am
by Richprins
Happy Exmas, Ex! :-0

Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:25 am
by Klipspringer
I wish you a happy party and a good time, ExFmem. O0

Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:27 am
by Lisbeth
Enjoy your family X-mas party, Ex \O