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Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:47 pm
by ExFmem
Yay!

There were only 2
Tarachodes on the KTP list, so naturally I looked up
T. lucubrans first, and there was almost the exact little face
![Love [Luv]](./images/smilies/icon_cuinlove.gif)
as mine, so was pretty sure that was it. However, there is also a
Tarachodes sp. listed, so I wasn’t 100%.
Tarachodidae Tarachodinae Tarachodini Tarachodes lucubrans: Twee Rivieren
https://specimens.mantodearesearch.com/specimen/1653 https://specimens.mantodearesearch.com/specimen/1652
Tarachodidae Tarachodinae Tarachodini Tarachodes sp.: Twee Rivieren
A couple of questions before I write it up (i.e. Copy and Paste your research

):
1. Are both entries the same species? The head of the first one looks different (doesn’t show the conical tubercles for ex.) and the eye configuration is different from the second entry.
2. When you write this “This is visible in the first specimen. When moving or hunting, however, the same specimen may hold its head in a forward pointing position as displayed by the second specimen.” Is this referring to
my posted specimens, or external pics being referred to?
Very interesting info. You dug up - made me smile.

Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:45 pm
by Klipspringer
ExFmem wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:47 pm
A couple of questions before I write it up (i.e. Copy and Paste your research

):
1. Are both entries the same species? The head of the first one looks different (doesn’t show the conical tubercles for ex.) and the eye configuration is different from the second entry.
Exactly my thoughts, but after reactivating my spatial thinking skills, I found that the elevated tubercles don't show and the ocelli look different if you look at it from above. Have been contemplating, rotating images in my mind , looking and thinking for quite a while and I am convinced now: It's one and the same species.
ExFmem wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:47 pm
2. When you write this “This is visible in the first specimen. When moving or hunting, however, the same specimen may hold its head in a forward pointing position as displayed by the second specimen.” Is this referring to
my posted specimens, or external pics being referred to?
Referring to your posted specimens
Change the wording if you are capable of better descriptions, my English is not the bestest

Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:43 pm
by ExFmem

(Your English is perfect!)
While the grass mantid/stick mantid entries are still fresh in your mind, here are two more from 2017 KTP. They were taken 2 weeks apart. Maybe females, with the shorter antennae?
2017 KTP 1

Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:44 pm
by ExFmem
Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:11 pm
by Klipspringer
Yep, the females are less slim, larger and wingless.
Add them to the post!
The wingless condition is assumed to aid in camouflage.
Make sense if the wings are somewhat shiny in the males.
Do you remember where you have seen these? Are they on the ground in the grass? The photos do look like daytime, perhaps this species does not hunt moths at night.
Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:02 pm
by ExFmem
Klipspringer wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:11 pm
Yep, the females are less slim, larger and wingless.
Add them to the post!
The wingless condition is assumed to aid in camouflage.
Make sense if the wings are somewhat shiny in the males.
Do you remember where you have seen these? Are they on the ground in the grass? The photos do look like daytime, perhaps this species does not hunt moths at night.
Yes, they were both taken in the daytime - the first at Twee R in the grasses, and I can't remember exactly what camp we were in two weeks later, but definitely daytime on the ground.
(I added them to the entry)
Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:43 pm
by Richprins
Huge beetle - 5cm body!
Nelspruit
Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:28 pm
by Klipspringer
Richprins wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:43 pm
Huge beetle - 5cm body!
Nelspruit
I can not determine which longhorn beetle it is
Impressive one however!
Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:35 pm
by Alf
Thanks Klipspringer

Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:51 pm
by Klipspringer
Richprins wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:43 pm
Huge beetle - 5cm body!
Nelspruit
Is this a recent observation?
Are you sure that you don't overestimate the size?