Insect or Invertebrates Identification - DONE

[ExFmem]

11 Anterior coxae about as long as the metazone of the pronotum, almost without spines ("fast unbewehrt") in the male, with divergent inner apical lobes.

I interpreted “with divergent inner apical lobes” to be the lobes at the top part of the coxa

Here is an enlargement of that area, admittedly not too distinct with such a huge crop:








Here is the illustration, “H” shows the divergent lobes





Opinion?

[Klipspringer]

No, I just discovered the fineprint: cxl in the figure B of the leg = coxal lobe, so it is the first "knee" and there the inner side.

Have seen it only now

Not visible in the photos.


I assume the inner lobes are divergent


Bisanthe it is

[ExFmem]

Yep, I was conflicted as to whether it referred to that cxl area (bottom of the coxa), but the word "apical" led me to think it was the top/apex area of the coxa being referred to. Whatever, if we can't see it in the pics, no problem, at least it's not contradictory. All the other "YES" answers make it pretty darned certain it's a Bisanthe.

You deserve a raise!

[Klipspringer]

Inatters have been busy to Id all Bisanthes now

Here is yours in Botswana
https://inaturalist.ca/observations/5153938


You can edit the entry to Bisanthe sp., I'd say

It might be another one than B. pulchripennis (which is btw recorded not only from Namibia but also KZN coastal area)

[ExFmem]

I edited the previous entry, so all this discussion can be disposed of, and the new entry revised as you see fit.

[Klipspringer]

Walking Stick, Stick Insect Bactrododema reyi
Family: Diapheromeridae Subfamily: Palophinae. Tribe: Palophini




KTP

Distribution
Angola (?), Kenya, South Africa, Uganda, Zambia

The genus Bactrododema contains 4 species in the region: Bactrododema hecticum, Bactrododema krugeri, Bactrododema reyi, Bactrododema tiaratum

This is not the correct ID, it is clearly an unwinged species

Maransis?
Clonaria?

[Richprins]

[ExFmem]

Re: the stick insect

I found this description - Clonaria : Characteristics of the genus.—
Small to medium-sized wingless, elongate phasmids, remarkably so in many species.
Antennae (12 to 18 segments) always very short, up to about half length of fore femora.
Metanotum about the same length or longer than mesonotum.
Anal segment in male truncate or slight emarginated. Female operculum variable.
Cerci often incurved in male.
Eggs: cigar-shaped, glued to suitable surfaces. Micropylar plate long and narrow. Distribution: throughout Africa.


1082-6467_2006_15_37_TNSOSA_2.0.CO_2.pdf

Problem is, I can't find what year that was taken other than being entered April 27, 2014, so I can search for more pics and enlarge as needed. I looked at the books (before the year 2014) I do for myself and don't find it, probably because it isn't a very good pic so I didn't use it. No TT's for 2013 or before for KTP, so not sure where to go from here.....I'll try some more tomorrow

[Klipspringer]

https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/ite ... 6/mode/1up

There are some figures and descriptions of both genera.

Maransis looks about right?

[Klipspringer]

These were all taken in Kruger, but on 4 different dates, so I’m assuming different individuals.

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Found this (I think it is a draft version of the new spider guide and the IDs there are different from the book, sort of revised edition)