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Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 1:06 am
by nan
would you like I ask my dog

Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:57 am
by mposthumus
Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:06 am
by mposthumus
Toko wrote:mposthumus, are yours from Kruger?
Kruger it is Toko (good ID on that one)

To be more precise Transport dam 4/1/2012

Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:08 am
by mposthumus
Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:09 am
by Toko
Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:34 pm
by mposthumus
Is this also a Shieldback Locust (Pamphagidae) Toko?
Mopani - 27/12/2012

Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:42 pm
by Toko
Yes, but I am not sure if it is a different species or the same

(Pamphagidae is only the family)
I have not really searched these ones yet, perhaps I can get to genus ID level at least

Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:13 pm
by Toko
Now we are wiser

it is the subfamily Porthetinae
Either a a species of Lamarckiana, female
Lamarckiana Rain locusts
Identification: Large (body length 60-100 mm), generally uniformly grey, with very flattened antennae, and cream cheek and prothoracic stripe. Males winged. with smoky black hind wings; females wingless
Males call from trees by night.
There is a hearing organ on either side of her thorax
Lamarckiana are nocturnal
Or

perhaps female Hoplolopha sp - don't know
Hoplolopha: Saw-backed locusts
Identification: Fairly large (body length 38-43 mm), typically with wingless females and winged males. Females are various shades of brownish and greenish grey, males steel grey with a cream cheek
Lobosceliana perhaps also for the second one
Identification: Large (body length 43-68 mm), brown, with tan pronotum edged with white stripe and with 2 brown wedge-shaped markings. Antennae broad and flattened. Males winged, with brown hind wings. Females wingless.
http://orthoptera.speciesfile.org/Commo ... ID=1117228
http://orthoptera.speciesfile.org/Commo ... ID=1117217
http://orthoptera.speciesfile.org/Commo ... ID=1117245
http://thesmallermajority.com/category/ ... ue/page/2/
Transvaaliana is another possible genus

Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:32 pm
by Toko
At least I know now that these are two different ones

Re: Insect or Invertebrates Identification
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:34 pm
by mposthumus