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I found this systematics list (2007) that lists 15 Families. Are there only 7 in our index because the other families aren't found in SA?

Recent Systematics
http://mantids.de/3.html

Here is the SA list with range

http://www.ru.ac.za/static/departments/ ... tidae.html

ExFmem wrote:........(But I did know it wasn't a zebra, as their distribution doesn't extent to the KTP )......

could be the next challenge

ExFmem wrote:
If I can't tell a honey badger from a polecat, what are my chances of success w/ mantids
(But I did know it wasn't a zebra, as their distribution doesn't extent to the KTP )

Yes, Toko, I had seen that link. It looks like some of the subfamilies, etc. have been elevated to full Family status, thus increasing the total # of Families.

Ex. : the subfamily Tarachodinae is now under the Family Tarachodidae, not Mantidae, etc.

I was struggling with how to classify my mantid from KK, as there are conflicting lists of designations.

The one I posted was from 2007. Is the one you referenced from 2000? I can't quite tell. Thanks.

ExFmem wrote:I found this systematics list (2007) that lists 15 Families. Are there only 7 in our index because the other families aren't found in SA?

Recent Systematics
http://mantids.de/3.html

Yes, that is a list that includes the familes not found in SA, but a useful reference thanks.

Toko wrote:Here is the SA list with range

http://www.ru.ac.za/static/departments/ ... tidae.html

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Toko, that is a respected list, but it is only of one family.

For SA, we can go with the Mantid family list provided by BioDiversityExplorer. This page provides links to six of the eight SA families where samples of genera and species are given.

I also believe that the mantis shown here is a bark mantid, genus Tarachodes, found under family Mantidae.

ExFmem wrote:Yes, Toko, I had seen that link. It looks like some of the subfamilies, etc. have been elevated to full Family status, thus increasing the total # of Families.

Ex. : the subfamily Tarachodinae is now under the Family Tarachodidae, not Mantidae, etc.

I was struggling with how to classify my mantid from KK, as there are conflicting lists of designations.

Oh! I am behind the times, and so is Biodiversity Explorer. Yes, it does seem that Tarachodidae has been elevated from subfam.
So, make that at least 9 families of Mantids in SA. (unles others have been sunk).

BluTuna wrote:Hi Wynand,

Here are some more angles on that bee.





I hope these help. I can't see any projections but that's probably because I don't know what to look for. Could you ring the projections (or where they are supposed to be) on one of the pictures please?

Thank you for the superb pics, BluTuna. Nope, can't see the projections, so I would venture that it is not a Cuckoo Bee.
I'm guessing here: Halictidae?
Here's an example from WaspWeb: http://www.waspweb.org/Apoidea/Halictid ... ecies2.htm

wynand wrote:

ExFmem wrote:I found this systematics list (2007) that lists 15 Families. Are there only 7 in our index because the other families aren't found in SA?

Recent Systematics
http://mantids.de/3.html

Yes, that is a list that includes the familes not found in SA, but a useful reference thanks.

Toko wrote:Here is the SA list with range

http://www.ru.ac.za/static/departments/ ... tidae.html

.
Toko, that is a respected list, but it is only of one family.

For SA, we can go with the Mantid family list provided by BioDiversityExplorer. This page provides links to six of the eight SA families where samples of genera and species are given.

I also believe that the mantis shown here is a bark mantid, genus Tarachodes, found under family Mantidae.

here the link to the entire order Matodea (however old classification)
http://www.ru.ac.za/static/departments/ ... todea.html