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Re: Open Safari Vehicles in Kruger - New Trend

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 6:46 pm
by Richprins
Some info here: http://www.satsa.com/osv-permits/

In the pamphlet it is stated in bold that tourists, staff and OSV OCCUPANTS contribute to misbehaviour in Kruger. While the OSV drivers are lauded as ambassadors and what not? :-?

But some OSV drivers are also at fault, hence the monitoring process, so it doesn't make sense? 0:

Re: Open Safari Vehicles in Kruger - New Trend

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 8:23 pm
by Richprins
Rog...a bit of help, as you are obviously an excellent mechanic with a sterling record...

Can one find a simple bar graph showing the comparison between emissions regarding sedans, ldv's (bakkies), light trucks (20 seaters) and buses?

And heavy tilt trucks required for construction? :twisted:

Re: Open Safari Vehicles in Kruger - New Trend

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 8:46 pm
by RogerFraser
Hi RP

Found some images online .Having some limited experience also with CO2 emissions this is a difficult one it all depends if the vehicle is full or empty if it emits more co2 per person moved or less . :-?

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Re: Open Safari Vehicles in Kruger - New Trend

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 8:52 pm
by Richprins
Thanks, Rog!

Difficult to get the different vehicle classes. Exhausting! :twisted:

Re: Open Safari Vehicles in Kruger - New Trend

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:03 am
by Lisbeth
When Dr. Mabunda was arround, he hinted more than once that self-driving was going to end. He had not put a limit, but obviously we are getting there 0=

Re: Open Safari Vehicles in Kruger - New Trend

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 9:44 am
by Puff Addy
Ending self-drive will certainly alienate birders and photographers, for a start...

Thinking lately about doing a Berg-en-Dal-Biyamiti 'quickie' trip. Seems it would be better to do that sooner rather than later! O-/

Re: Open Safari Vehicles in Kruger - New Trend

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:11 am
by Flutterby
I wouldn't visit Kruger if I couldn't do self drives. :no:

Re: Open Safari Vehicles in Kruger - New Trend

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:15 am
by Toko
So it's a good tool to reduce the number of human invasives \O

Re: Open Safari Vehicles in Kruger - New Trend

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:16 am
by Flutterby
If they are also happy to lose revenue. :yes:

Re: Open Safari Vehicles in Kruger - New Trend

Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 4:05 pm
by Bushcraft
When I discussed this with my kids the first thing they all said was “The OSV drivers are the cause of half the traffic jams and chaos in the south”. Warranted, there are many good operators, but they certainly aren’t “ambassadors” if kids can even see problems.

I would like to see how many South Africans visit Kruger because it’s a self drive and therefore affordable wildlife venue. At a guess I’m fairly certain that this applies to the vast majority of South African visitors, so if there’s no more self drive, then one alienates South African citizens from their own parks. Our devaluing rand may still make things attractive to overseas visitors, but I’m sure many only visit due to the self drive and the increase in cost to see the south of Kruger may make other destinations more attractive, or Kruger unaffordable.

The emissions part is just to gain some form of false justification. Millions of humans are exposed to a 1000 times the emissions daily and surely human life is as important.

In my opinion the perception of financial gain seems to be the driving force O/