Insect or Invertebrates Identification - DONE

[Klipspringer]

Here the paper on the genus, would you check out the figures and the general shape


https://www.jstor.org/stable/41766916?s ... b_contents

Female Bisanthe
https://specimens.mantodearesearch.com/specimen/67



On inat the Bisanthe are ID'ed by pros (if you check the user profiles of the people who IDed), only recently after new members joined


So far I did not check the genus description of the early literature IF there is something

but my thoughts

black thick antennae
cerci sticking out
yellow margin of the wing
females have larger heads than males
decrease of pronotum length in the southern populations

Kaltenbachs key is only about the length of the pronotum and genitals

[Klipspringer]

Links

https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/53210525

[ExFmem]

Looks spot on.

I will redo the entry according to the new 2019 revision with the classification as follows, correct?

Family: Chroicopteridae
Subfamily: Chroicopterinae
tribe: Chroicopterini
subtribe: Bisanthina
Genus: Bisanthe (Stal, 1876)

are we making it B. pulchripennis?

(The Chroicopteridae are a new (2019) family of praying mantids, based on the type genus Chroicoptera.)

Good catch there, Klippies

[Klipspringer]

I am not certain at all

If you compare the wing length of the mantodea file photo - it does not extend much over the abdomen tip.

Do you consider the eye of your mantis round in shape?

The eye shape of the female in the file photo is different to yours, IMO

https://books.google.de/books?id=R4vZDw ... io&f=false

this reads: eyes somewhat projecting, rounded


Are our wings hyaline or opaque?

[Klipspringer]

https://www.zobodat.at/pdf/ANNA_100B_0019-0059.pdf

page 45 head of B lagrecai - does not have rounded eyes

[ExFmem]

(Since I don't understand German, the descriptions are of no use to me, so I have to depend on your interpretations thereof.)

Below are pics of my mantid in question:







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These are pics of various Bisanthe sp. from a variety of sources:


B. lagrecai


B. menyharthi/male,female


B. pulchripennis/dorsal,ventral


B. pulchripennis/iNat. website pic

What do you see as the troubling features, please, so I can focus on those?

[Klipspringer]

Links

https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/53210525

This says: 2 tubercles on the frontal shield

and you can see them here

tubercles.jpg (70.81 KiB) Viewed 318 times

and on the figure you have posted.


The white dots on the face of your mantis are reflections, I think?


Can you check if we have tubercles?

[ExFmem]

I’m quite certain it does have tubercles - here are two views:

[Lisbeth]

The insects are soooo complicated

[Klipspringer]

Ok, anyone else seing tubercles here?

Lisbeth?

I am more than confused


And then there is still the wing question.

Is the wing opaque green?

If not we would see through the forewing seeing the hind wing

I mean: is it a male or a female? Can we see a broad body from that angle?

And what about the prominent cerci




I'll now

The insects are soooo complicated