Thanks BluTuna and PRWin
BluTuna, remember that this is full frame, and I am actually seeing a little bit of trailing in the corners already (I don't think it's Coma, because the direction is just what one would expect for trailing). What I am saying is that these "rules" are not accurate for high-resolution sensors. They are probably fine for a 12-14Mpix camera, but for our 24's, you can't use them unless you only want to share on the web or similar.
And this of course puts big strain on your camera's high-ISO performance. There is a method where the guys take 5-20 photos, then stack them in Photoshop using photomerge (in two seperate steps, one for the foreground and one for the stars, with the unwanted areas painted out), and then using a median filter for noise reduction.
There is a tutorial here:
http://www.lonelyspeck.com/stacking-noise-reduction/
And also some inspiration and other ideas here:
https://luminous-landscape.com/introduc ... otography/
But for me at the moment these techniques are too advanced. I use Lightroom exclusively, so can't stack. Not sure for how long this will continue though. But my feeling is that if you are not prepared to use these types of techniques, you need a full-frame camera or you will only frustrate yourself.
So just pack me in as well when you go!
PRWin, f4.5? That's at least a whole stop darker than these, which are all at f2.8 and either ISO5000 or ISO8000?
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Peter I agree , but ISO 5000 at 2.8 and ISO 6400 at 4.5 are about the same, had a look at the video, You can do the same from one photo as well in layers with Photoshop
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I heard about the 600 rule many years ago from astrophotographers I knew at the Astronomical Society.
some instructions I found for some stacking photography said to take 50 shots of the sky then take 50 more of the same duration with the lens cap on. The software will stack the images and use the second 50 shots to remove the noise.
Here's the link : http://www.instructables.com/id/Astroph ... /?ALLSTEPS
some instructions I found for some stacking photography said to take 50 shots of the sky then take 50 more of the same duration with the lens cap on. The software will stack the images and use the second 50 shots to remove the noise.
Here's the link : http://www.instructables.com/id/Astroph ... /?ALLSTEPS
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Maybe we should start a thread on star photography where we can say what we did and how we did it
Peter, BT using some of the method http://www.lonelyspeck.com/stacking-noise-reduction/ below (NO1)
This one done normally (NO2)
NO1- was done taking a single photo and making 6 layers, Taking 6 black layers and then following the link above,
It then HDR, saturation and the normal added, big difference compared to no 2 which was a single frame as well , noise reduction added and HDR
Settings ISO 6400 at 30s 28mm at F4.5
Peter, BT using some of the method http://www.lonelyspeck.com/stacking-noise-reduction/ below (NO1)
This one done normally (NO2)
NO1- was done taking a single photo and making 6 layers, Taking 6 black layers and then following the link above,
It then HDR, saturation and the normal added, big difference compared to no 2 which was a single frame as well , noise reduction added and HDR
Settings ISO 6400 at 30s 28mm at F4.5
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Re: What gear do you have...
My thoughts exactly, I'll ask a Mod to move the last few posts to a new Astrophotography topic.PRWIN wrote:Maybe we should start a thread on star photography where we can say what we did and how we did it
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This is beautiful PR!PRWIN wrote:Maybe we should start a thread on star photography where we can say what we did and how we did it
Peter, BT using some of the method http://www.lonelyspeck.com/stacking-noise-reduction/ below (NO1)
This one done normally (NO2)
NO1- was done taking a single photo and making 6 layers, Taking 6 black layers and then following the link above,
It then HDR, saturation and the normal added, big difference compared to no 2 which was a single frame as well , noise reduction added and HDR
Settings ISO 6400 at 30s 28mm at F4.5
Unfortunately this format is too small for any difference to be visible.
Looks like I need to get Photoshop sometime...
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Some in-camera techniques:
This is done by starting the exposure carefully focused on the stars, leaving it for about ten seconds, then slowly de-focusing for the remainder of the exposure.
And this is done in a similar way, but rotating the zoom-ring instead of the focus ring.
This is done by starting the exposure carefully focused on the stars, leaving it for about ten seconds, then slowly de-focusing for the remainder of the exposure.
And this is done in a similar way, but rotating the zoom-ring instead of the focus ring.
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Exquisite!
Do any of you (currently or in the past) use the custom function noise reduction setting in the camera? Is it worth the extra time it takes for the camera to take the second exposure in order to subtract/reduce noise, or is it just as easy to do it during post processing? Thanks.
Do any of you (currently or in the past) use the custom function noise reduction setting in the camera? Is it worth the extra time it takes for the camera to take the second exposure in order to subtract/reduce noise, or is it just as easy to do it during post processing? Thanks.
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very interesting thread... and beautiful pictures.... have to try... but how... with what I have to start
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